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watching the breaking news coming out of louisiana, president trump still at the national guard ar mother there in louisiana. and after he's just left the armory is what we understand and heading towards air force one, but these pictures from moments ago where the president was visiting those who have helped in the recovery effort after hurricane harvey. and it's been a very busy afternoon, but a shortstop there as we were speaking with the "associated press's" darlene superville saying that the president wanted to get through and make that quick stop there. nbc's katy beck has also been following the president on this saturday and he spent a majority of his time really there in
texas where houston, the fourth largest city in the country, was absolutely harm measured and the situation right now in terms of flooding still very much hanging over the heads of many houstonians. >> yeah. absolutely. the recovery effort here in houston proper is definitely under way, but folks with a lot of anxiety as they have a daunting challenge ahead of them, a very overwhelming situation for many of them to come home, to find their house completely destroyed. the flood waters in houston proper, some reaching five and six feet left homes completely trashed. when you drive down the streets, you can see piles of sheetrock and rubble and furniture and belongings of families. they're starting to sort through that but it's going to be a good long while before back to normal. the approximated and first lady spent a good deal of time at the shelter where they visited with folks, children, they served food, hot meals and they really
made a connection here. we spoke to folks who said they were very happy to see the president here, feel reainsured that they're going to get the help they need. >> where you're at there in the shelter as we're looking at some of the background, i was looking at some folks moving some bags around, but tell us what's happening there at the shelter, how it's different maybe at this hour versus maybe about four or five hours ago. >> well, the numbers sort of keep changing as people come in and out. some people are finding places to stay and leaving, others are coming from areas like beaumont that's still largely underwater and are in need of shelter immediately. the number right now is about 2,500 evacuees in the shelter. we are seeing the number decrease. one number that's not decreasing rngts though, is the number of volunteers coming to the shelter to help. we've heard soefr 10,000 people have offered to help in this time of need skprks they've been showing up here hour by hour.
you've seen folks lining up at the volunteer table. what can i do to help? how can i make a difference? one mother came in just a few minutes ago with her entire family, said they were sitting at the dinner table last night watching the coverage and she looked at them and basically said get your shoes on. this entire family is approximate going to volunteer. and they did. >> that's a great quote. get your shoes on and get going. that's what happens here in this place when something like this does ham. we're looking at some live pictures here of president trump now arriving at air force one there in lake charles, louisiana, where he made a shortstop to visit those at the armory and those who were assisting in the recovery. and of course, we'll keep our live cameras on that. and katy, you were giving me that number of the shelter that you're at and the number of head that were there before versus the number now, and one of those -- another parallel to that and you're probably familiar with this, the george r. brown
convention center. it was reported by the "associated press" they had 10,000 evacuees in that shelter. they're now down to 1,000. and that's a reflection of things could be getting better. either they can move into some temporary permanent housing if you will or going back to their homes. >> right. i think the real struggle for them is they don't know just how long it's going to be. and as we discussed earlier, when you're asking someone to stay at their home, it becomes an imposition if that becomes a month or two months or three months. i think right now people are really in search of a situation that can be permanent, that they can sign a lease, perhaps, until their home has been repaired. and that is a challenge right now. you have a lot of people seeking the same thing who are sort of in a desperate situation. >> have any of those that you've spoken with in the last day or so, they've got the news of the $8 billion that the president
has now pushed forward, yet many of their own elected officials, and if they were watching katrina as many louisianans certainly did do and have looked at other national disasters, the numbers that will be needed that many people are talking about here is over $100 billion. i was speaking with one representative, sheila jackson lee, obviously of houston, a represent ti of the district there saying we're looking at up to $200 billion. are they concerned there that congress will stay focused on getting them the money they need? >> i think for now people are concerned about their immediate situation. i think they feel grateful that there is some movement, that they are hearing from public officials and from the president that relief is on the way. >> yeah. >> but i think their scope right now, it sort of has to be shortsighted in the sense that they need to figure out where they're going to sleep tonight, what their kids are going to eat, and those primary concerns are certainly overriding the
long-term picture. and there is a long-term picture. i just don't know that at this point they're looking at that. i think they're really concerned with the immediate future and how they're going to make it through this. >> yeahel. no doubt. and again, we're all looking at day six or day seven for many of them. nbc's katy beck on the ground for us at one of the shelters there and some of the positive news coming out of there is fewer heads are having to stay at the shelter. and perhaps that means we're starting to get into a better phase at the moment. we'll get back to you a little bit later. thank you so much for that. i want to bring in daniel lip man, political reporter as well as alex thompson, politics and policy editor for vice news. daniel, they're not focusing so well she did bring that up, katy, they're probably not thinking will we get to the 100 billion, again, president trump now along with first lady, live pictures here in lake charles, louisiana, getting up into air force one. we're going to head back to
washington, d.c. daniel, so as we look at that number, if it does hit 200 billion, does that make it difficult for president trump to work with this republican congress as we look at the debt limit which is impending? >> yeah. treasury secretary steven mnuchin said on cnbc a few days ago that all of this money that they have to spend on harvey relief, that makes the debt limit deadline come quicker. and so that deadline is september 29th, but every time they spend, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars a day on harvey relief, that means trump has to pressure the republican congress to really, you know, raise the debt ceiling in a timely manner, because, you know, soon the clock will stop. and you don't want the u.s. government to default, especially when you have, you know, thousands, hundreds of thousands of harvey victims who are counting on goth help.
>> okay. we're just finished our live pictures of the president on air force one. get back to had that when air force one does take off as it heads back to washington, d.c. alex, for democrats, how should they handle this situation if they don't want to take political leverage here and use it to its fullest value? >> i mean, i think you'll see rep al green who you had on earlier who has introduced or has called for the impeachment of president trump, you heard a much more friendly tone. you heard him, you know, getting along with the administration, appearing with other republicans, basically trying to unite behind this issue, saying that we can pull politics aside briefly. but that doesn't mean that it's going to last. i mean, the republicans need democratic votes almost certainly to raise the debt ceiling, to get a budget passed in the next month. and a lot of these democrats, you know, if the president ends
daca on tuesday are going to be facing a really hard time trying to get along with the administration. >> as all of this is swirling around about trying to get the numbers all lined up to help the people, the thousands of individuals down in texas and louisiana, there is the other issue on tuesday that's in front of us and that is daca. daniel, he was just in a state, if there was ever to be a state to have an opinion about this, this is texas. with 14% of those who are eligible for daca having a voice and probably saying we want you not to rescind this. do you think this will be part of the conversation as the issue of harvey is debated as well, daniel is this. >> yeah. it's inevitable that it's going to be talked about and you're going to see some of those pargz of those issues. it makes it a little harder for him to end daca, because some of those, you know, harvey victims are daca, you know, kids.
and, you know, daca people that would be in jeopardy once their work permit ends. and so you're seeing a concerted public campaign by republicans to tell president trump that there would be a human cost to ending daca. and, you know, trump has talked about the kids and these beautiful kids. and so i think they're trying to appeal to his humanity and saying, you know, if trump ends this, it would be very bad politically and you're also seeing an effort that if he does do that by republicans in congress to have a legislative fix to protect these people. >> but is there political peril, alex? is the cost going to be high? is the group that he will certainly push away, aren't they already pushed away? aren't we looking at groups that aren't supporting and voting for
him anyway? he's really saying to his base i'm fulfilling another one of my campaign promises. >> predictions of political fallout have seemingly bounced off trump. people telling him don't do this, it's not the right thing, you're going to face consequences. it's not clear that he would even listen to that if that was the case. and i think you're right to say that in terms of a more nationalist, anti-undocumented immigrants, this would be in many ways a fulfillment of the promises that he ran on during the campaign. >> okay. and, again, that's just happening in the next couple of days. and we will see what happens with that, along with the question of, you know, the 100 to $200 billion that's been debated so far. we've been watching the president in this case taking a picture with some of the law enforcement that have been working on the ground there in louisiana. thank you so much for being with us on saturday.
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with us. and let me start with you on this, scott, you know, the president today, we saw the pictures. you saw ted cruz, somebody who was critical of sandy funding before. you also saw in other pictures the president standing next to democrats, such as al green, sheila jackson lee. but the response has been widely, so far today, been that the mood was good. >> right. >> they were getting along. hard to tell, we have not spoken with senator cruz, but we have spoken with others who have been talking with the president who have been very critical, al green at one point asking for impeachment of this president. and so, scott, when we look at what's happening right here, might we see the funding, this $8 billion it might happen more easily? >> i think that first wave of funding is probably going to happen pretty quickly, easily. democrats and republicans eager
to show people in texas and louisiana that they want to help them. congressional leaders are talking about approving that first wave as early as next week right when they get back from the august recess. the question is what happens next. i mean, you mentioned that initial $8 billion could be less than 10% of what is needed in total. we've seen figures up to $100 billion. and that's roughly what katrina cost. so the question is what comes next. some of the stuff has to happen in the next few weeks. congress needs to reauthorize the national flood insurance program which is a federal program that plays a critical role in flood recovery. that's one of the many programs that expiers on september 30th. you've got the debt limit. we've been talking about how harvey is speeding up the deadline for the debt limit. that's going to be hit quicker because of all in spending. so there's a lot of stuff today. and while big picture by and large you're going to see bipartisan support for doing something as it gets into the details and as harvey fubding
possibly gets mixed up with debt ceiling raise, with government funding, that's where things could start hitting snagz and you could have a hard time getting some of this passed. >> and one of the issues on the ground as we watch the pictures here of president trump meeting with al green as i was alluding to a little bit earlier in houston is the epa. and scott pruitt, the president's appoint tee here to head the epa has been taking the teeth out of that specific agency. this is potentially what we're seeing happening today where they don't have enough fire power. the "associated press" reporting they don't have anybody from the epa at the superfund sites across the state of texas so far, brian. and that might be one of the after effects of this administration's desire to really have less government, but in this case they may say you do have to have a certain amount of regulation especially when we look at natural disaster areas like texas. >> we'll see. we've seen the response so far, and so far the reviews are
positive. and they've been doing a pretty good job. >> except for the epa according to the "associated press" not being on the ground while you have superfund sites which are in danger -- as you know so well, we had the explosion yesterday in cross by of one of those pet row chemical locations. >> i hear you. but i think ultimately these are things that we're going to talk about in a few weeks, maybe even a few months looking back to see if there were mistakes made. i know that democrats and republicans in congress will have over site hearings and they'll look at every dollar that was spent and everything done immediately in response to this crisis to see if it was done correctly, more so like the response to hurricane katrina, which was not done well or it was more so like sandy, which was done a little bit better. i mean, i think you will see congress take a hard look at that. but ultimately there may be problems with funding a lot of these items if congress does what they can't help themselves but do. when they get their hands on these appropriations bills, they
tend to load them up. they'll toned use something like this hurricane relief bill -- or i'm sorry, super storm relief bill to basically, you know, load it up with unrelated items. and we did see that with the sandy bill. we saw $2 million for the smith seasonian, massive amounts of money for community block grant programs, community development block grant programs. and that may become a problem if congress can't resist the idea of adding unrelated items to this bill. also the debt limit, could be a huge problem if they try and marry the debt limit to a relief bill package. >> is that the danger really more for democrats as a potentially remember super storm sandy and what republicans like crews had to famously done ask rejected that assistance in. >> well, so far the people who were so critical of ted cruz and other people who voted against the sandy package, they've certainly made a lot of noise saying we remember what you did,
but they're saying they're probably going to vote for harvey funding. you saw that from peter king, long island republican, very critical of crews, calling him a hit credit but saying i'm going to vote for harvey. more significantly you saw a statement from very early on from minority leader nancy pelosi saying democrats are going to support relief funding for harvey victims. >> thank you both for sticking around for a couple of hours with me here on this saturday. really do appreciate it. >> sure thing. >> thank you. >> all right. coming up, fema's flood programs are pat risk and flood insurance programs are in debt on this day. what that means for the people on the ground there in louisiana and texas.
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to almost $25 billion due to an increase in massive flood disasters. that debt is only going to get worse as claims related to hurricane harvey, those are going to start to come in, no doubt. experts have now suggested more money go into hazard mitigation and disaster preparedness in order to lower the need for insurance pay outs after disaster strikes. joining me now is new york senator to do ka minimum ski whose long island district received $40 million after super storm sandy. catastrophe coordinator. let me start with you here, senator. what worked, you think, because, again, your district received $ $40 million in hazard mitigation funds during super storm sandy. does the system still work, do you think? >> look, there's no doubt that people who live in coastal communities feel that they're being priced out of their homes. flood insurance has become
ridiculously expensive for them. but what we've lernld is when they take measures to mitigate, in my town many residents received federal money to raise their homes. their homes are now 12 feet off the ground. and the first floor is used as a garage, for storage. it's a new way of viewing the world. and we cannot assume that these are once in a lifetime events. they are not. this is the new normal. and i think there needs to be a countrywide awakening, not just with flood insurance but with infrastructure building that is going to prevent these things. >> go ahead. >> very quick example. in long beach residents did not want for a long time a dune along the beach, a 14 foot wall of sand. now it's coming. and that has to be the new way that people want to live. and how could we make smart investments that are going to protect these communities. a lot of these communities in texas, whether they're dams, raising certain buildings, there should not be a power plant near a river any more.
there should not be a skol that doesn't have a generator. there's got to be a new way of thinking and i think it's a great opportunity to marry up the need for jobs, for real infrastructure and for federal spending because it matters. it's penny wise and pound foolish to spend that dollar after the storm than before it. >> lynn, what would you add to that? >> well, i think he's got a wonderful point. the fact is we're not being riz yent. we have to recognize that these risks happen with greater frequency and we think that it's never going to happen to us, but we have to really understand our individual risk. and people are in denial about that. so you have to look at insurance as a way to protect yourself, protect your finances so that if something does happen, you can rebuild. but it's, again, recognizing the risk to begin with, and this is something we are not good at. >> you know, what about those federal flood zone maps that we've been talking about? are they out of date. >> oh, some of the mams have not been updated in decades. so they are going over, looking at those maps again. it changes, the topography
changes. when you're building more structures, high-end structures into cities, you are changing the flood plain and you're changing the way that water runs off. so we're putting more people in harm's way. everybody is interested in living by the water, but they're not understanding that there's a risk to that. and there's a price to be paid for that. but it starts as you just said, it starts with being resilient and understanding that the infrastructure has to accommodate those risks. flooding is the number one natural disaster. >> and we are seeing a big punctuation point to that today. senator, who pays for it? >> i mean, look, i think the country as a whole has to get away from the thinking of who are these people on the coast and why should we fund them? it's a nationwide problem when a disaster hits, whether it's a tornado, whether it's a hurricane or other type of flootding. so at the end of the day, i really believe that a resilient infrastructure program is going to pay for itself down the road when we're able to avoid major
national disasters. i can tell you whatever it would have cost to have retro fitted that chemical plant so it would not -- >> do you mean state and federal? >> yeah. i mean, look, this is definitely a nationwide program. certainly the flood insurance is. but yeah, absolutely -- >> infrastructure, does it come from state or federal. >> both for sure. our federal government definitely has to look at it. what happens is nobody says it's missouri's problem, texas's, new york's problem. the military is mobile ietsd. congress is asked to move. it's a national probable. so wouldn't we want to spend 50% of that earlier to avoid those major problems. can you imagine if we were able to cool that chemical plant down before it exploded, we would have saved a lot of money. so, you know, it's an important time for our nation to realize that good spending ahead of time will save us down the road. >> lip, do you agree with that in terms of who is going to pay for it? >> well, i think the argument doesn't work in all 50 states. i do understand where depending
on where you live you'll have a different perspective. but again, there's some personal responsibility that has to come into play. you want to look at the insurance perspective is to protect your finances. if you want to live in a place that's risky, you have to pay that price. and so i don't know that the government should be able to do that. there is a personal responsibility factor that has to be recognized and addressed. >> all right. and we've got to leave it there. thank you so much. i know it's tough for all of these individuals today that are there in texas and louisiana as we try to understand what the right insurance balance will be in the future. thank you both. up next, we're going to go to beaumont, texas, a place hit hard. no water pumps for pottyable water. 120,000 people affected by heavy rain and flooding. we'll take you there. h. yeah! (butch growls at man) he's looking at me right now, isn't he? yup.
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headquarters in new york city. here are some of the stories we're watching for you. president trump and the first lady are wheels up now. they are headed back to the white house after just wrapping up a brief visit in lake charles, louisiana, where he met with congressional delegation and also stopped by the louisiana national guard armory. and then earlier this afternoon they visited houston, meeting with victims of hurricane harvey. the president stopped at a relief center in houston to lend a hand and also visiting a neighborhood affected by the hurricane. now, the president also stopped at a local church and joining us now pastor ken gurly of the first church in pearl land who got a chance to talk to the president during that visit. pastor, the word is that it was somewhat ad hoc but maybe you knew he was coming. either way, how did the conversation and visit go? >> thank you, richard. it went very well. yes, we had a little advance notice, but of course, they
caution up till midnight the night before that it probably couldn't happen, wouldn't happen. so we carried on with our operations. but it was a very good visit highlighting, i believe, what happens when communities of faith come together and just give out of warm hearts. >> yeah. and pastor, that's so important. what is it that your church has done in the recovery effort that has worked well? >> the church -- form, we retained power. we did not flood. and so we began rescue operations day one of the storm, bringing people, sending out boats, bringing them to the church, cooking for them, finding them places to stay. some stayed at the church. and then over the several days, as we just kept rescuing people, then we started bringing in the relief supplies through one of our non-profits, reach out america. and with the relief supplies now
we're going back out into the flooded communities with trucks actually floating some relief supplies out there. and that's what the president and first lady witnessed today was the effort that we have to process goods and donations and then get them back to the areas that need it the most. >> pastor, are you going to have a certificate monday tomorrow? >> i am. >> what's the message going to be? >> i'm going to talk about even though you may be disspirited and life throws you something you didn't expect, you can always look to faith and know people care and there's going to be another day. houston is drying out and houston will recover. we're now sending goods over to the folks over in deep east texas and louisiana area that are being affected as well. so we've just adopted a new group of people. >> certainly have.
you've adopted -- you're south of down houston houston, right, in the houston metropolitan area. >> yes. >> and you've got certainly 6 million people who would want to hear your message. your parishioners, you know churches are places where people express their feelings and their emotions and they often do it to you, pastor, and so give me a sense of how they are doing both emotionally and spiritually in the conversations you've had in the last week. >> they've been as emotional as you can imagine. when people see their homes, their life possession, keepsakes, mow men toes, souvenirs washed away, literally, it is heart-wrenching, and they reach pretty much the lowest shelf emotionally and spiritually that you can imagine. it's been one of the greatest transform agsz of the several hundred volunteers who were there today, i would hazard a
guess that 50% of them have lost their homes or their homes were flooded, and yet they were there with smiles on their faces around people. we encourage one another. and it's been a beautiful time to watch. of course, the gamut of emotions is wide, the pendulum swings from one direction to the other. and it can happen just momentarily. >> yeah. >> but people are coming to grips with it, and it's great with people of faith to get together. >> and pastor, you need to remain strong throughout this. has there been a moment where you have let a little weakness in? >> oh, this one has been difficult, richard, because actually, we stayed here during the storm, and we just -- we got so wrapped up in the drama of
peoples' lives that we just have not had a chance -- today almost seemed surreal to us with the president visiting because it's almost like the last week has been a dream. and it's been difficult, but there's been a lot of strength coming from the community and the people we're working with. i encourage everyone, and i should probably take my own advice, to get plenty of rest. but right now it's sort of all systems ahead. >> yeah. >> until we can get more relief. >> well, pastor gurly, there at the first church there in pearl land. it's just south of downtown houston. i hope you do find a pew and get a little bit of shut eye as you have to give your certainly yon tomorrow. >> and that will demand a little bit of energy. and i thank you so much what you've done over the last great and i hope for a great certificate monday tomorrow now. >> thank you, richard, very much. god bless you. >> to you as well.
turning now to some new details that we've been watching away from for a second what we were looking at in texas and louisiana. there is, of course, what is happening in washington, d.c. this as the president is headed back there right now. and this related specifically to the ongoing russia probe. in part coming from a pair of reports in "the new york times." the first saying that special counsel robert mueller has in his possession now a preliminary draft of a trump letter in which he outlines his reasons for firing fbi director james comey. the second finding that russian involvement in the hacking of our electoral systems was more extensive than previously disclosed. all this while an apparent document dump was being executed at the russian consulate in san francisco after it was ordered shut down by the state department, a process that is typical of such situations where consulates or embassies are shut down in short order. joining us now is tam ra nirl,
attorneys at law. and tam ra, thanks for being with us on this. first off, let's start with the comey letter. in an excerpt from the times article reads this, the letter drafted in may was met with opposition from donald f. mcgahn, the white house counsel who believed that its angry meandering tone was problematic according to interviews with a dozen administration officials and others briefed on that matter. and you can -- it's been called a skreeb, right, if you will, a very emotional and angry draft that it was. and that was just a section of it. so when you look at this, what do you think might be the biggest mistake of this particular draft coming out, and how might it hurt donald trump and or those who were involved in the administration and campaign? >> well, i think it's important to note that in this instance at the time that letter came out, there was an ongoing
investigation being conducted by the federal bureau of investigation into concerns about russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. and so part of that investigation is getting at whether there was influence, improper influence and contributions by the russian government and russian nationals. and arising from that concern is obviously the investigation by then mr. comey. >> and part of the reporting is that the vice president, right, was here and there in the room when that very draft was being discussed by the president as well as miller. would that then therefore put the vice president in a bit of peril? >> well, in this investigation, which was already launched in the summer of 2016, the
involvement of anyone in obstructing justice or potentially trying to influence the investigation that was being conducted by the federal bureau of investigation is a matter of grave concern. and so in this russia probe there are two broad aspects that are being looked at, not only russia's interference with the 2016 election, but also actions after this investigation began. in other words, efforts to potentially obstruct justice or otherwise influence or interfere with the investigation. >> the second finding that we're looking at right now is russian involvement in the hacking of our electoral system, which is more extensive, at least based on what we understand here. that must be worrying for those who are looking at 2018 and 2020 and how far they may have gone in the last cycle and what that may mean in the coming cycle. how do you discuss this in the
legal circles about the potential danger and then, therefore, how -- if there is question, how those challenges might be levied? >> well, deputy chief of the justice department, i can tell you that it's so, so important to investigate potential violations of law. and in the russia probe what are principally involved are campaign finance laws that prohibit anyone from knowingly soliciting or accepting contributions from foreign governments or foreign citizens in elections. and so here the investigation must run its course, but what is fundamentally at stake is the influence of russia, but also the methods that they use. in this case, cyberattacks. >> cyberattacks related to the election. okay. >> yes. >> let's go back then to the special counsel, robert mueller, and this draft that we started talking about. how does this finding, you think, affect his investigation
going forward, not much or in a very big deal? >> well -- >> big way, excuse me. >> yes. well, as you know, special counsel mueller has been empowered by the deputy attorney general, rosenstein, to investigate the potential violations of any law, any law as relates to russia's alleged meddling and interference in the 2016 election. and so with this letter, with the revelation of concerns that were expressed about mr. comey and why he was terminated, fired, all of that gets to whether there were any efforts to obstruct the federal investigation and obviously at that time mr. comey as the head of the fbi was leading that investigation, and it was being led under the normal course. it was only after this, after mr. comey's termination from the fbi, that in fact special counsel mueller was appointed.
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claiming that is what they have and what they can do. no independent confirmation as of yet of their claim. of course we'll be watching that story for you right here on msnbc. so we have some new information on an old claim tonight. court documents reviewed by nbc have reviewed that the fib and the national security division have no records of wiretaps in trump tower. contradicting a claim made by the president during a series of tweets on march 4th. let's bring back daniel litman and from vice news alex thompson. thank you both. i said good-bye to you early we are we have this story to talk about. so daniel, what is your take on the news? >> it looks like they buried it on a friday afternoon before labor day. and so there was kind of a concerted effort maybe to have court documents come out when no one was really paying attention
except our dogged reporters at nbc. and so i think that just confirms that there was no basis so what trump had said. and that there was no wiretapping of obama and this is based on something he read and heard about through breitbart and people in the far right media. and so that really -- you have to remember back to the time in march when this derailed as a gend -- his agenda for weeks. >> and the claim again coming from president trump at the time, not the president -- excuse me, president trump and as he made that claim here, alex, now that we have this information, any political repercussions for him? >> i think you will see a bunch of republicans, maybe not try to defend him as much. when he made the comments it was very early in the presidency and republicans felt they had to get in line behind their president and maybe it was possible. you had a lot of people talking
about the unmasking and about potentially wiretapping, lots of officials in the trump administration talk of conspiracy. and i don't think in the future now when president trump makes claims, ily you will see -- i think you will see republicans be very circumspect. >> and i'll hold up the playbook which we read here and you start the day by discussing some of the three dozen white house appointments that happened late friday night and who stands out to you. >> so richard grennel, who is was the u.n. spokesperson at our u.n. delegation during the bush administration, he's been nominated to be the ambassador to germany. and grennel is kind of a controversial figure in some circles. he is known for lashing out at journalists ant not being the nicest person and you also see tom moreno being nominated to be
the drug czar. >> so alex, who stood out to you in the three dozen or so nominations? >> the person that he pointed to head nasa is a climate change skeptic and with all of the reports of scott pruitt over the epa, taking on some scientists and acquisitions of politicizing science and with all of the research that nasa has done on climate change you could see a big fight over the science throughout the trump administration going beyond just the epa and that is nasa. >> and we'll see out of all of the nomination who will bubble up because again we just got this over the last 24 hours and we're watching what is happening of course in texas and louisiana as well. daniel litman, alex thompson, thank you both again. >> thank you. that wraps it up for me this hour at msnbc. stay with us for updates and breaking news. we'll stay on top of what is
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